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Topic: All Quiet On The Managerial Front
Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Subject: All Quiet On The Managerial Front
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 4:17pm
No quick appointment then as promised.



Replies:
Posted By: Bof
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 7:23pm
Is that good news or bad news


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 8:37pm
When was a quick appointment promised, I thought he said as quickly as possible. Would think it depends on applicants and availability already had an unemployed manager who was out of touch, may be time to poach one in a job


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 8:51pm
Perhaps talks are taking place to take a manager from another club.We are arguably the biggest club in this league.


Posted By: Red Blooded
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 9:20pm
Probably trying to find somebody mad enough to take on the poison chalice that we have become.
May have to pay over the odds to tempt a suitable manager.


Posted By: Colbefc2
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 11:13pm
I know where there might be a manager going soon, think his name is Marco :)
In all seriousness I hope Tamworth pick the right manager cos i want to see them win next time I am down, soon i hope.  I think I have seen them win once in the last 18 months Smile


Posted By: Bof
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 10:36am
There are probably a few reasons why football managers are out of work at the moment. The main reason would be they’re not up to the job. Should we be willing to wait until the best manager becomes available, of course we should. He may need to be tempted away from another club and that could take time. Or would we prefer to get the best of a bad bunch. I know what I’d go for. If that means rebuilding from the next level down and being successful and climbing the leagues, I’ll happily live with that. If the alternative is scraping in this league for the foreseeable future then that’s not for me. We have a caretaker who is trying to make a difference with what he has. So make the right decision Bob and no knee jerk reaction. Build the future now.


Posted By: Pricey2
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:43am
The idea of rebuilding from another level down turns my blood cold. I’ve already spent Saturday mornings googling where the hell some of these places are (Royston, Hitchin, Leiston, Needham Market, if mrs didn’t have family in Biggleswade that would have been another). I don’t want to be googling Kempston, Berkhamsted and Yaxley. I’m more than happy in my ignorance.

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Posted By: Bof
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 12:10pm
Originally posted by Pricey2 Pricey2 wrote:

The idea of rebuilding from another level down turns my blood cold.


Totally understand and agree. But if not then are you happy with the alternative of mediocre football at this level or worse with the wrong manager. We don’t have many options.


Posted By: Pricey2
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 3:17pm
My own twopenneth for what it’s worth is that back in March at the legends evening, Gary Mills certainly gave the impression he’d come back. Some people have reservations over his last spell at York but he won the trophy, nearly kept them up from a dire situation and two managers there since have done worse than him. He would certainly garner enough points to stave off what would be a genuinely catastrophic further relegation.

For me, i’d give it him till the summer, keep us up, sit down with him at start of May, ask if he fancies it long term and build a squad for more than a season or if not, consult with him and others as to who we do get and make a permanent appointment first half of May. Give them a full pre season and a squad and stick with them. If we struggle, have confidence in our choice and stick with them. Knee jerk sackings are the start, middle and end of this debacle.

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Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 3:59pm
Good shout


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 4:36pm
Would love to have GM back - major obstacle for the Board however he’s walked out twice on TFC already. Less chance it would happen a 3rd time in my opinion as not sure his clout rating as a Manager is as good as it once was - stating the obvious here but any new appointment has its risks but for me you know what your going to get with GM so carries slightly less. Saw Robbo at the ground on Saturday - TFC through and through and would make a great No 2 under GM - just saying


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 4:41pm
Awaiting Dan - come on I’m holding my breath and going purple “It ain’t going to happen”


Posted By: DanTFC
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by Argus9 Argus9 wrote:

Awaiting Dan - come on I’m holding my breath and going purple “It ain’t going to happen”
It ain't going to happen  


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 5:48pm
God your so predicable - funny though last time l saw Robbo at Lamb was just before an appointment of one of our previous Managers a couple of years back (assume that was a mark of interest). - he was there sitting next to Darren Gee on that occasion . However moving on next appointment has to be 3rd or 4th time lucky or we are well and truly - long way back if we go down yet again - for me GM a good choice with less risk - really hope Sir Bob gets it right this time and just maybe needs to keep more of an open mind! - we all know picking a new Manager is like a game of poker - last few hands Sir Bob has played the new cards in AM and DG - perhaps it’s really time to play an old hand.


Posted By: JamesLamb
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 10:53am

Suggesting Ian Long of alvechurch and Baillie of Stratford are targets here

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tamworth-fc-step-up-manager-15758326" rel="nofollow - https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tamworth-fc-step-up-manager-15758326



Posted By: Pilgrim Pod
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 11:02am
I wouldn't believe anything written from that paper. I wouldn't even click the link. It's all click bait. They're probably still running an article somewhere that Thierry Henry is on his way to manage Villa. Clowns. LOL


Posted By: DanTFC
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 11:34am
Originally posted by Pilgrim Pod Pilgrim Pod wrote:

I wouldn't believe anything written from that paper. I wouldn't even click the link. It's all click bait. They're probably still running an article somewhere that Thierry Henry is on his way to manage Villa. Clowns. LOL
Not Brum Mail though ... it's a Herald report. 
I've heard similar whispers they want someone doing well at this level   
Certainly hope they do go down that route rather than someone out of work, who is out of touch. 


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 11:42am
Dan it’s tipical paper _ollocks, they name everyone so they can then print they got it right


Posted By: DanTFC
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 11:45am
Originally posted by Bolehall Youth Bolehall Youth wrote:

Dan it’s tipical paper _ollocks, they name everyone so they can then print they got it right
I know a couple of them are on a shortlist.



Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 11:52am
not that hard really Dan, Stratford did the double, Alvechurch should have done but missed loads of chances in the first half, and Kitching after ever job available! 💡 I think I might know 3 mind you in say that most clubs have beaten us so the list could go on.


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 11:54am
I would like to see Mike Ford given a chance, did really well at Oxford City and now doing very well at Banbury


Posted By: DanTFC
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Bolehall Youth Bolehall Youth wrote:

not that hard really Dan, Stratford did the double, Alvechurch should have done but missed loads of chances in the first half, and Kitching after ever job available! 💡 I think I might know 3 mind you in say that most clubs have beaten us so the list could go on.
I'd argue it'd be a shock given the last time we went for a manager in work was a long, long time back ..  


Posted By: Skippo10
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 12:36pm
I personally in the state we are in would do everything to get Gary Mills, but if not, Peter Beadle would be a good bet, did very well at Hereford, and just left after getting them promoted, so his record is pretty good.


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 1:58pm
Mills a bit like DG, to long in the tooth. Mills follows the 💰, TFC to Coventry, Alfreton to TFC, TFC to York, Gateshead to Wrexham and when he didn’t go after the 💰 he was sacked on results.
Now time to give a younger more eager person the opportunity


Posted By: Pilgrim Pod
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 2:27pm
My ideal candidate would be a recently retired professional footballer who has just taken their coaching badges and are full of ideas and desire to do well in the game. Someone who has played locally at a decent level with ties to their old club to provide the possibility of loaning decent young players.

Probably pie in the sky but surely there has to be someone like that out there who are looking for a break and a place to make a name for themselves?

I don't want old has-beens who have been bouncing around the lower leagues for 20 years because they are crap. I want someone fresh and hungry but not another Mike Fowler who has never done anything in the game, either playing or coaching. No more frauds thank you!


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 2:27pm
Originally posted by DanTFC DanTFC wrote:

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I know a couple of them are on a shortlist.


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What’s wrong with a tall manager


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 3:54pm
Would Lee Hughes be worth considering?


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 4:20pm
sh*t - what have you just stated CL? - trench hats on me thinks


Posted By: DanTFC
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 4:22pm
Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

Would Lee Hughes be worth considering?
Wasn't Petrov rumoured to be interested a couple of years back? Would certainly add to the gate  


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 4:51pm
Originally posted by DanTFC DanTFC wrote:

Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

Would Lee Hughes be worth considering?
Wasn't Petrov rumoured to be interested a couple of years back? Would certainly add to the gate  


Think we would end up losing fans if we employed Mr Hughes - let’s not forget a number of fans were unhappy with DGs Housing Benefit Fraud shenanigans- that’s obviously pales into insignificance with LH and his past


Posted By: DanTFC
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by Argus9 Argus9 wrote:

Originally posted by DanTFC DanTFC wrote:

Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

Would Lee Hughes be worth considering?
Wasn't Petrov rumoured to be interested a couple of years back? Would certainly add to the gate  


Think we would end up losing fans if we employed Mr Hughes - let’s not forget a number of fans were unhappy with DGs Housing Benefit Fraud shenanigans- that’s obviously pales into insignificance with LH and his past
Yeah, I didn't really put that right ...was more on about when Petrov was interested (for a higher attendance). Would be interesting if they plumped for an ex-pro but can't see it 


Posted By: I.O.M.Lamb
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 11:46pm
Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

Would Lee Hughes be worth considering?

Lee Hughes? Jesus Fu**cking christ. Just when I thought I couldn't dislike a manager of ours any more than I did Greene you come out with that idea, thanks CL. If that arsehole turns up, I'm done. It will be brass rubbing on Saturday afternoons for me. Going for a lie down in a dark room.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 8:11am
Originally posted by I.O.M.Lamb I.O.M.Lamb wrote:

Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

Would Lee Hughes be worth considering?

Lee Hughes? Jesus Fu**cking christ. Just when I thought I couldn't dislike a manager of ours any more than I did Greene you come out with that idea, thanks CL. If that arsehole turns up, I'm done. It will be brass rubbing on Saturday afternoons for me. Going for a lie down in a dark room.


Told you CL your about to upset fans - what took you so long IOM - to be fair expected a bit more blasphemy and swearing


Posted By: Skippo10
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 10:58am
One that maybe worth thinking about that nobody has mentioned, and that maybe because it is unlikely, but I thought this a few weeks ago and reminded me today as he was in talkSPORT, is Kevin Phillips, recently part of the Gary Rowett regime sacked by Stoke, was once golden boot winner in the premier league whilst at Sunderland, in his coaching career so far, has worked at Leicester, Derby and Stoke, and would have an unbelievably long contact list, lives in Shenstone, Lichfield, got to be worth trying to at least ask the question.


Posted By: Pilgrim Pod
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 11:08am
With his pedigree my guess would be he could pick up a coaching role at a much higher level on a much better wage.

Any ex Walsall or Burton players recently taken their coaching badges and looking to get into management? Someone with those kind of links would be perfect in terms of the possibility of loans.

Like I've already said, please no old has been all out of ideas who's endlessly bounced around the lower rungs of the football pyramid.


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 1:12pm
I would imagine the Chairman has two or three in consideration but is quaking in his boots about making a decision. Probably getting neurotic about it because it's vital He makes no mistake.


Posted By: Bof
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 2:57pm
Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

I would imagine the Chairman has two or three in consideration but is quaking in his boots about making a decision. Probably getting neurotic about it because it's vital He makes no mistake.



That boat as they say has already sailed


Posted By: Pilgrim Pod
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 3:07pm
Sailed? More like sunk. LOL

But completely agree regarding the importance of getting the next appointment right.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 4:47pm
Originally posted by Pilgrim Pod Pilgrim Pod wrote:

Sailed? More like sunk. LOL

But completely agree regarding the importance of getting the next appointment right.


Your just showing off now! - for a Villa Fan your fast approaching wordsmith status


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 6:38pm
Originally posted by Bof Bof wrote:

Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

I would imagine the Chairman has two or three in consideration but is quaking in his boots about making a decision. Probably getting neurotic about it because it's vital He makes no mistake.



That boat as they say has already sailed


What do you expect Bof - we are a “Ship of Fools” on the pitch


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 2:11pm
With little prospect of an appointment this week I would assume that our targets do not want the job. Perhaps we will end up with another duffer or get Morrell back. The world's slowest club in action again it seems.


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 3:28pm
Come on Dan what’s happening?


Posted By: Red Blooded
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 3:54pm
I would rather they take their time and get the right person than rush into making another bad appointment.


Posted By: Pilgrim Pod
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 3:56pm
Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

With little prospect of an appointment this week I would assume that our targets do not want the job. Perhaps we will end up with another duffer or get Morrell back. The world's slowest club in action again it seems.

Well it's been all downhill since Morrell departed. Would have, could have, should have, hindsight and all that but I felt he would have kept the club up when he was sacked.

With AM in charge it always felt to me like two steps forward, one step back BUT I always felt he was pushing the club forwards. Losing Belshaw and Newton was always going to be hard on the team. Yes he made mistakes but he was a young manager learning his trade. I'd take him back over some of the more experienced names mentioned. Doubt he would return though if given a choice.

In saying that I do understand why he was sacked even if I thought it was premature but with that decision MF should never have been put in charge. You want a fresh approach you don't put in charge the no2 who was part of the so called management problem to start with. A manager MF certainly is not as we found out all too late.

The decision to start this season with MF in charge still makes my pi$$ boil now. The guy's a conman.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 5:28pm
No early appointment- still hope then for the dream partnership to return for me Mills and Gee or Robbo - tell you what they wouldn’t let any team they managed play without pride for the shirt - and yes yes yes yes yes yes yes Dan l know in my heart it ain’t going to happen but that’s more to do with Board and possibly their pride after he’s walked out twice than the expediency of our dire situation- just an opinion


Posted By: Skippo10
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 6:09pm
Originally posted by Pilgrim Pod Pilgrim Pod wrote:

Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

With little prospect of an appointment this week I would assume that our targets do not want the job. Perhaps we will end up with another duffer or get Morrell back. The world's slowest club in action again it seems.

Well it's been all downhill since Morrell departed. Would have, could have, should have, hindsight and all that but I felt he would have kept the club up when he was sacked.

With AM in charge it always felt to me like two steps forward, one step back BUT I always felt he was pushing the club forwards. Losing Belshaw and Newton was always going to be hard on the team. Yes he made mistakes but he was a young manager learning his trade. I'd take him back over some of the more experienced names mentioned. Doubt he would return though if given a choice.

In saying that I do understand why he was sacked even if I thought it was premature but with that decision MF should never have been put in charge. You want a fresh approach you don't put in charge the no2 who was part of the so called management problem to start with. A manager MF certainly is not as we found out all too late.

The decision to start this season with MF in charge still makes my pi$$ boil now. The guy's a conman.


I couldn’t disagree with any of that, and feel exactly the same way, you could add Styche into the mix on the players we lost front also, banging in the goals when he departed for Darlington.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 6:30pm
Originally posted by Pilgrim Pod Pilgrim Pod wrote:

Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

With little prospect of an appointment this week I would assume that our targets do not want the job. Perhaps we will end up with another duffer or get Morrell back. The world's slowest club in action again it seems.

The decision to start this season with MF in charge still makes my pi$$ boil now. The guy's a conman.


Bit harsh on MF - “Conman” ? - yes out of his depth especially with the players at his disposal and players he bought in and subsequent management however don’t know his police record do you? - however moving on with his replacement feel free to use the term as proved in the courts


Posted By: The dosthill lamb
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 6:55pm
It clearly is down to the board that Gary Mills wont return, and i guess that is their right, but when you hear from very reliable sources,that at the legends night he offered to take the job on till the end of the season for no financial gain. it would for me have been a no brainer. I understand the argument that he "walked out" on the club twice previously. However in the first instance,who would have turned down the opportunity to go to a league club (Coventry) and on the second occasion when York came calling,who again were a bigger club in terms of resources and fan base, what i dont understand is, that if he was contracted to us, surely our board could have refused the request to speak to him if they had wanted him to stay, at least until the season ended.Perhaps someone "in the know" could enlighten us further if it wasnt perhaps as straightforward as that. Regardless of that though,our board has made a right pigs ear of things since. We are in a perilous position through their making, and for me the only thing about this season now is ensuring we stay up,regardless of how. I happen to agree with Dale Belford that they should have asked Gary Mills to take it on until the end of the season and see where we go from there. I dont think we would go down with him in charge. Am sure others would not agree, but make no mistake,as things stand we arent too big to go down yet again which would be unforgivable,but on current showings is a big possibility.


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 7:02pm
Anyway - back to the subject. Three weeks and we can't name a manager for a part-time club. The list of potential targets (best ones in our league) was pretty long. Perhaps the fact that they,too,are part-time managers probaby meant that they would lose money switching to full-time management in our league ang giving up a good job.It sounds like a barrel scraping operation now after the chairman said they were conducting interviews two weeks ago but now the recruitment process is ongoing.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 7:33pm
FORGET your pride Sir Bob - Get Mills back in - another relegation will be worse!


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 7:41pm
Agreed


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 7:43pm
Nice if we could get some momentum on here for Mills coming back - come on you old duffers


Posted By: Skippo10
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 8:00pm
Yeah I agree too, Mills went onto bigger things on both occasions, and if he came in again did well and got a better offer from higher league club I would again wish him well, the board need to think about the future of the club instead of their own credibility, because if we go down, they won’t have any credibility, let’s be fair there are plenty of players who have moved onto to bigger things, that we would happily welcome back to the club.


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 8:37pm
The players would enjoy being managed by a european cup winner.Need a boss of some stature at this moment.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 10:07pm
Another vote for Mills - Mrs Argus


Posted By: I.O.M.Lamb
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 10:44pm
Count me in, Who are we going to get that is better than Mills?


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 12:38pm
Mrs Mills, No Thank You!
I like Dale, but if he likes him that much, have at Scumeaton.
Dale really should be looking out for his players who he has helped sign who aren’t getting paid.

Really could do with an announcement though.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 6:08pm
Yes we have to make sure we take time to make the right choice however we don’t know we’re taking so long because we’ve been rebuffed by Boards favourite choices todate. Whatever every day that goes by is a day less we give our new manager to sort out the rabble who wear our TFC shirts in preventing us going down


Posted By: Gregorios
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 7:14pm
Some say take time and get it right and then some worry about the time it takes.. can’t please everybody. If going for a manager currently in work it’s not going to be quick thing, very few if any teams at this level will have full time staff to deal with such matters

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Posted By: Shed93
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 10:46am
Ian Long and his team have signed contract extensions. Suggests he turned us down.


Posted By: Pilgrim Pod
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 10:55am
In with the pun before Argus!

So long Ian Long and goodnight... Oh hum! LOL


Posted By: Shed93
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 11:16am
Seems we can’t even attract personnel from village teams


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 11:19am
Originally posted by Pilgrim Pod Pilgrim Pod wrote:

In with the pun before Argus!

So long Ian Long and goodnight... Oh hum! LOL


Your go to any Length to upstage me Pod


Posted By: DanTFC
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 11:55am
Originally posted by Shed93 Shed93 wrote:

Seems we can’t even attract personnel from village teams
Although to be fair to Alvechurch, they are moving into a very impressive new stadium and are challenging at the top.. can't blame Long really   


Posted By: Shed93
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 1:11pm
Agreed, will be interesting to see just how far the chairman / owner can take them. I thought they may have reached their level with fan base etc but their league position and ability to keep the management team is a statement


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 1:27pm
Were they in for it?
A good move for Alvechurch if we were talking to them
Would have been a big move though from 200 to 600 supporters breathing down there necks


Posted By: Pilgrim Pod
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 1:40pm
600 plus still turn up at the MOT Centre Commu... at the Lamb? Never mind Bob I just hope George Delves has no input into our recruitment as he's in the same camp as MF for me.


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 2:03pm
Assume we have been turned down by a few targets.A sacking club tends to do that. We will eventually get a duffer in to carry on the good work of the previous 3 managers.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

Assume we have been turned down by a few targets



Long may in continue - will have to get down to Mr Mills and Mr Gee sometime


Posted By: DanTFC
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by Argus9 Argus9 wrote:

Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

Assume we have been turned down by a few targets



Long may in continue - will have to get down to Mr Mills and Mr Gee sometime
Don't get this obsession ..way out of touch with this level of football  


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 2:57pm
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Andrews and Delves are discussing the situation."Well George,thats a nice mess we've gotten ourselves in to"


Posted By: Pilgrim Pod
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 3:01pm
Originally posted by Coleshill Lamb Coleshill Lamb wrote:

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Andrews and Delves are discussing the situation."Well George,thats a nice mess we've gotten ourselves in to"
You're suggesting communication takes place at the club. I find that very hard to believe...


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by DanTFC DanTFC wrote:


Don't get this obsession ..way out of touch with this level of football  


And MF and DG were in touch l suppose - Asante, Waite, and Verma on massive wages and the rest have run rings round both previous managers with inept performances and that’s when they actually decided to turn up. GM Management Skills at this and any level are transferable and he would not have tolerated the current goings on. How many managers have we had who have lost the dressing room in recent years - GM never did - strong leadership is what we need and that’s what you would get from Mr Mills.


Posted By: The dosthill lamb
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 4:29pm
Not quite sure how someone who has only been out of the game a few months and has managed at a higher level is "out of touch with this level of football". Tell you what is an obsession though, a board which keeps appointing managers who were former assistants to perceived doomed regimes a la Belford (Marcus Law) and Fowler,(Andy Morrell) and then rewarding them with new contracts after overseeing relegation! Any wonder why we find ourselves in this current mess!


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 4:53pm
The Chairman is the architect of our demise and,sad to say.his opinion is the only one that matters.The fans have to take what they are given.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 5:55pm
Originally posted by Pilgrim Pod Pilgrim Pod wrote:

Never mind Bob I just hope George Delves has no input into our recruitment as he's in the same camp as MF for me.


Safe to assume you didn’t send Mr Delves a Christmas Card Pod


Posted By: DanTFC
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 6:40pm
Originally posted by The dosthill lamb The dosthill lamb wrote:

Not quite sure how someone who has only been out of the game a few months and has managed at a higher level is "out of touch with this level of football". Tell you what is an obsession though, a board which keeps appointing managers who were former assistants to perceived doomed regimes a la Belford (Marcus Law) and Fowler,(Andy Morrell) and then rewarding them with new contracts after overseeing relegation! Any wonder why we find ourselves in this current mess!
His last job was 2017 and not managed so far down as this since 2001. 


Posted By: confucious tammy
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 7:29pm
The way we are going we will be playing Sunday football if we do not get things sorted properly. At least we won't need to worry about player budgets as they will be paying subs. But seriously we need to decide where we want to be and run the club accordingly and it is never a bad idea to keep the fans informed as without them there will not be a club.

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Posted By: The dosthill lamb
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 8:21pm
Accept that Dan but my point is that he has managed before at a higher level. If the budget is as people say one of the best, if not the best in this league,someone like Gary Mills .you would hope would still have the necessary contacts to attract the required quality of player to get us out of this league. If as other people on here have suggested, we are paying good wages to some very average players.I am told by more than 1 person that at the legends evening he offered to take the job on for what was the remainder of that season for nothing. Mills was never sacked, he chose to leave firstly for a position at a league club and who wouldnt have, and secondly for a bigger non league club at that time. Our board have hardly covered themselves in glory these past couple of seasons, and if they simply wouldnt entertain the idea of re-employing him because of past happenings, i find that quite sad. After all, if he was on contract when he was offered the York job, surely our board could have prevented him from leaving had they so wished. Perhaps they are of the opinion to not go back to the past, which is their prerogative, but i for one have little confidence in their ability to make the right appointment otherwise


Posted By: Lammie Lamb
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 9:32pm
Despite all of the above comments, some valid, some , one thing for certain is that we have to get behind Gary,Andrew and the team they select. Saturday is not the easy game which many expect it to be having read their last match reports. They will also have a new manager in situ so Lambs fans need to make it loud, it was back in the Banks’s League so can be in this League which whatever we feel about it is where we now sit. We cannot go lower !!!
COME ON YOU LAMBS.


Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 9:42pm
How come St Neots managed to get a highly-rated manager so quickly and we can't?


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by DanTFC DanTFC wrote:

Originally posted by The dosthill lamb The dosthill lamb wrote:

Not quite sure how someone who has only been out of the game a few months and has managed at a higher level is "out of touch with this level of football". Tell you what is an obsession though, a board which keeps appointing managers who were former assistants to perceived doomed regimes a la Belford (Marcus Law) and Fowler,(Andy Morrell) and then rewarding them with new contracts after overseeing relegation! Any wonder why we find ourselves in this current mess!
His last job was 2017 and not managed so far down as this since 2001. 


Groundswell on this site is for GM to come back whether you like it or not Dan - fact! - you can come back and say never going to happen - fact! - impass absolutely- time for Sir Bob to choose yet another loser after all he’s getting very good at it


Posted By: DanTFC
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 8:23am
Originally posted by Argus9 Argus9 wrote:

Originally posted by DanTFC DanTFC wrote:

Originally posted by The dosthill lamb The dosthill lamb wrote:

Not quite sure how someone who has only been out of the game a few months and has managed at a higher level is "out of touch with this level of football". Tell you what is an obsession though, a board which keeps appointing managers who were former assistants to perceived doomed regimes a la Belford (Marcus Law) and Fowler,(Andy Morrell) and then rewarding them with new contracts after overseeing relegation! Any wonder why we find ourselves in this current mess!
His last job was 2017 and not managed so far down as this since 2001. 


Groundswell on this site is for GM to come back whether you like it or not Dan - fact! - you can come back and say never going to happen - fact! - impass absolutely- time for Sir Bob to choose yet another loser after all he’s getting very good at it
 I didn't like your constant calls for AM to go when we were always top ten in the Conference North ...   that served the club well too.
Incidentally, there was also a desperate, desperate season under Gary Mills  where he was considered a loser..the gerry taggart year, i recall. He turned it around the following year and did fantastically well to do so ..but even he's not infallible.
Despite what it sounds like, I was a big admirer of Mills back then. 
And it doesn't bother me he moved on twice ...good for him really. If a manager moves on to bigger and better things it's because they have done well, which he did.  
But .. we just need to move on IMO.
Personally disappointed to miss out on Long ..thought Alvechurch played good football and the guy has proved a winner. 


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 12:09pm
Steady Dan, it’s not personal just opinions!
Is it me? I have Searched alvechurch’s web site, Facebook, Twitter and longs can’t find anywhere it says we have offered him a job ? Just one person not connected to either club saying he has.
Any way, You know my thoughts on Mrs Mills, So Dan with your support it is 2 people against and 4 people in favour, or Argus metrology it’s the whole fan base for.
Argus please don’t ask for a referendum.


Posted By: tfcfan1
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 3:43pm
We offered him the job. He said no and signed a new deal at Alvechurch.


Posted By: confucious tammy
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 5:46pm
Yeah a little village manager either lacks ambition or our interview techniques or offers are not very sellable

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Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 8:13pm
Probably spoke with previous manager, who have warned him about the personal abuse he can expect at some point


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 8:16pm
Originally posted by tfcfan1 tfcfan1 wrote:

We offered him the job. He said no and signed a new deal at Alvechurch.


More than likely bottled it, if that is the case

Do you know him then ?



Posted By: Shed93
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 8:32pm
I know Ian Long from his time at Tividale, believe me he wouldn’t ‘bottle it’ because of a few moaning fans


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 10:19pm
Originally posted by Bolehall Youth Bolehall Youth wrote:

Probably spoke with previous manager, who have warned him about the personal abuse he can expect at some point


God Bolehall Youth - No no no no - don’t do it! - vision of you with the pom poms and frilly skirt leading TFC on as the official cheer tomorrow leader just to much for me - got to be something like that. Accept The BOF setting up Asante Fan Club - but hey The DG Remembrance Society come on mate . Combination of the new martyr that’s AM and that’s only because MF and DG proved to be worst ever managers in TFC history who followed him - all all 3 contrived to win only one win at home on a Saturday in whole of 2018 and this year todate - cheer as loud as you want mate till your horse - we’ve had a bunch of donkeys on the pitch yet again for another season and been leaderless of it in terms of a manager.


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 10:30pm
You guessed it, Yep that’s me.

Thought DG got away lightly compared to Dale, there were some very nasty and personal things said to him, even bring his family into there viale rectrix.
Still it will be more comfortable being in front of a couple of hundred pensioners.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 10:51pm
Originally posted by Bolehall Youth Bolehall Youth wrote:

You guessed it, Yep that’s me.



Be very careful with the Pom Poms and the naked flesh at your age tomorrow - expecting a frost


Posted By: tfcfan1
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2019 at 10:41am
Originally posted by Bolehall Youth Bolehall Youth wrote:

Originally posted by tfcfan1 tfcfan1 wrote:

We offered him the job. He said no and signed a new deal at Alvechurch.


More than likely bottled it, if that is the case

Do you know him then ?



I don’t know him, but I know he turned down the job. Besides, what is there to bottle? Hardly going to be put off the job because of a few fans. He’s probably taken a look at the recent shelf life of our last managers.


Posted By: Pricey2
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2019 at 1:11pm
The above is a relevant point. Churning through managers in the last 12 months will deter good candidates. I still think Millsy would take it, I still think he’d do well too and while winning 5-0 was lovely, it would be churlish to look at that and read much into it. St Neots are a bottom 3 side who have recently slashed their budget, lost half a team and are considering voluntary relegation (on the basis of yesterday they won’t be needing to volunteer).

Well done yesterday but I don’t think that should cloud anyone’s thinking as regards to getting in a manager as soon as.

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Posted By: confucious tammy
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2019 at 6:25pm
The shelf life of the last few managers are more down to their quality. Andrews was right to remove Morrell as the decline had set in. The issue was he thought let's give it Fowler who was already playing his part in the decline and then thought I know he made such a massive improvement we will keep him on. All of a sudden the penny dropped so we chose an out of work manager in a blind panic. An ambitious manager will do well here as to be fair to Andrews he has continued to financially supported the club whilst the gates dwindled

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Posted By: Coleshill Lamb
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2019 at 7:00pm
We are now into the 4th week for recruiting a manager for our part-time club. Seems a hell of a long time to me.


Posted By: Shed93
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2019 at 9:58pm
I think the Long rejection had forced him to have a rethink. Coupled with the result on Saturday maybe he feels he’s happy to leave Smith in place to see how he goes against a tough opposition. If it’s a loss we could see a new manager in place this time next week


Posted By: I.O.M.Lamb
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 12:08am
If Long was first choice, and if he was offered the job and turned it down, surely we would have had a plan B, C and D already in place just in case. It seems a bit naive if we didn't. Maybe letting Smudger carry on until the end of the season is the best way forward now. Who knows, we may already have a terrific manager.


Posted By: Bof
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 12:47pm
Originally posted by I.O.M.Lamb I.O.M.Lamb wrote:

Maybe letting Smudger carry on until the end of the season is the best way forward now. Who knows, we may already have a terrific manager.


Could be a good option. I’d give him the opportunity to prove himself at Coleville and see if he’s got something in him. We’ve let to many golden nuggets slip through our fingers before without cashing in. Let’s not make the same mistake with a possible good manager.



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