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    Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 7:28am
The Isthmian, Northern Premier and Southern leagues are committed to starting the 2020/21 season on 19th September, providing government allows our Clubs to admit spectators. However, we recognise that factors beyond

our – or your - control may mean this date is not achievable.

To help clubs to forward plan, although our primary objective is to start the Step 3 & 4 playing season on 19th September, contingencies are set out as follows for your information.

Proposed Roadmap (subject to change)

Scenario 1:

Steps 3 & 4 season starts on 19th September, finishes 8th May with Play-Offs the following week. Deadline for decision – Friday 21st August.

If it is not possible to start on 19th September, 26th September is FA Trophy so…

Scenario 2:

Steps 3 & 4 season starts on 3rd October, finishes 15th May with Play-Offs the following week. Deadline for decision – Friday 4th September.

If it is not possible to start on 3rd October…

Scenario 3:

Steps 3 & 4 season starts on 10th October, finishing 15th May. No Play-Offs: top two clubs promoted. Deadline for decision – Friday 11th September.

If it is not possible to start on 10th October…

Scenario 4:

Steps 3 & 4 season starts on 17th October, finishing 15th May. No Play-Offs: top two clubs promoted. Deadline for decision – Friday 18th September.

If it is not possible to start on 17th October…

Scenario 5:

Scenario 5 is subject to club approval via AGM or EGM, FA regulatory approval and will require changes to the NLS Regulations and Standardised Rules, which also require FA Council approval.

Deadline for decision – TBC.

At this point a full fixture programme is not possible without unreasonable levels of midweek and away travel. So, each Step 3 and 4 division is split into two smaller divisions, every club playing each other home and away to create a ‘half’ season, at the end of which, the split divisions are re-merged.

The top five clubs will then play a Champions League style round-robin (ideally home and away) with the top 2 clubs promoted.

The lowest-ranked five will play each other, home and away, with the necessary number of clubs (i.e. reflecting withdrawals or resignations) being relegated. Clubs not featuring in Champion or Relegation Play-Offs will be able to enter a voluntary cup competition.

See page 4 for illustration of Scenario 5.

Scenario 6:

If it is not possible to start until January 2021, The Alliance Committee will determine if and how the season will be played out following consultation with the member clubs of the Northern Premier League, Southern Football League and the Isthmian League by the Leagues. Any decision of the Alliance Committee and subsequent changes to the NLS Regulations and Standardised Rules will require the approval of FA Council.

It is hoped that we will not need any of these contingencies. It should also be understood that there are no perfect solutions to this problem, and that it is impossible to accurately predict the precise circumstances that will apply at
any future date. However, the Step 3 & 4 leagues believe that this proposal provides as much clarity as we can provide at this time.

Clubs will be required to approve the relevant rule changes arising, should scenarios 3 – 6 be required, at Leagues’ AGMs or EGM.

I will update you again as soon as we have more news. In the meantime, we will continue to pressure DCMS to approve the return of paying fans for the league seasons to start on 19th September, and to confirm any limitations around this that they require."

Anthony Hughes

Southern Football League Vice-Chairman & FA Representative

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 11:58am
Must have been reading my suggestion in terms of Option 5. 😂 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 4:25pm
I don't fully understand the play offs at the end of scenario 5

Is it the top 5 of each re-merged for a top 10 of which two are then promoted? If so, quite why they have explained it so vaguely and in so complicated a manner I can't imagine.

Or is it the top 5 across the 2 and if so how do you determine the make up of the 5 (2 from 1 league and 3 from the other?)

Oct 3rd seems earliest possible if de Pfeffel sticks to his view at the moment.

Edited by Pricey2 - 18 Aug 2020 at 4:58pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 7:02pm

Just heard on Talk Sport that the Minister For Sport has tweeted that below National Leagues North and South crowds WILL be allowed.
Obviously we will find out more soon but for a change it seems a bit pf positive news.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2020 at 9:04am
I presume there will be a limit to the number of people allowed in. Some percentage of the capacity.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2020 at 9:24am
Doesn't seem absolutely clear at the minute but reasonably encouraging. On a side topic though, the absolute state of that Oliver Dowden...another Oxbridge educated twonk who will have never played football in his life.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2020 at 4:21pm
22-30 August - 15% capacity
31st August - 30% capacity

Means approx 600 at 15% and 1200 at 30% capacity
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2020 at 5:11pm
https://www.isthmian.co.uk/the-return-of-spectators-63172

This would suggest its 30% of 1950 so max would only be around 600
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2020 at 6:05pm
Well spotted
I’m sure the club will have to start to move away from the ticket turnstiles and treat it like FA cup games so book online, over the phone types of situations to avoid some being turned away
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2020 at 10:02pm
Any idea this year roughly how many of us are ST holders?
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